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RemarkSession-authored (Fable 5 assisted) sources checked 2026-07-26 not proved here
Recorded, not proved here. This statement is included so the library can refer to it honestly, with a citation to the literature. It is not proved anywhere in this library: the track that would prove it has not been developed here yet.

Is e+πe + \pi irrational? (open)

Statement

Question. Is e+πe + \pi irrational?

Status: open. No proof and no disproof is known. The same is true of eπe\pi, of eπe - \pi, of e/πe/\pi, of πe\pi^{e}, of ππ\pi^{\pi} and of eee^{e}: for none of these is it known whether the number is rational, let alone whether it is transcendental. This is not a gap in this library's prerequisites. It is a gap in the subject.

Remarks

Not proved in this library, and not provable anywhere at present. Nothing on any page here depends on the value or the arithmetic nature of e+πe + \pi.

What is known, and what would settle it. Both constituents are settled individually: ee is transcendental (Hermite, 1873, a result that is in scope for this library and will be proved), and π\pi is transcendental (Transcendence of π\pi (awaiting a scope decision) ). A cheap symmetric-function argument already shows that the two candidates cannot both be tame: ee and π\pi are the roots of

x2(e+π)x+eπ,x^2 - (e + \pi)x + e\pi,

so if e+πe + \pi and eπe\pi were both algebraic then ee and π\pi would be algebraic too. Hence at least one of e+πe + \pi and eπe\pi is transcendental, and that is essentially the whole of what is known about this pair. Note the asymmetry with eπe^{\pi}, which is known to be transcendental (Gelfond, via the Gelfond-Schneider theorem of 1934 applied to eπ=(eiπ)i=(1)ie^{\pi} = (e^{i\pi})^{-i} = (-1)^{-i}), and about which much more is known: Nesterenko (1996) proved that π\pi and eπe^{\pi} are algebraically independent over Q\mathbb{Q}. By contrast πe\pi^{e} is not known even to be irrational, because it is not of the form αβ\alpha^{\beta} with α,β\alpha, \beta algebraic and so Gelfond-Schneider says nothing about it.

Schanuel's conjecture, if proved, would settle all of these at once: it implies that ee and π\pi are algebraically independent over Q\mathbb{Q}, and hence that e+πe + \pi and eπe\pi are both transcendental. Schanuel's conjecture is itself open, so this reduces one open problem to a much harder one rather than solving anything.

Why it matters here. The library proves irrationality where irrationality is provable, starting from the refutation of the claim that 2\sqrt{2} is rational (FALSE: some rational number squares to 2 ), and it constructs R\mathbb{R} so that ee and π\pi can be defined at all. This item is the honest boundary marker: the elementary irrationality arguments do not scale, and the first genuinely simple combination of the library's two favourite constants is already past the edge of what anyone can prove.

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