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FALSE: is open in the product topology whenever every is open
Statement
False claim: if is open in for every , then is open in with the product topology (The product set of functions choosing a point in each factor, the projections, the box topology, and the product topology as the initial topology of the projections; the empty product is a one-point space).
What is true is the version with a restriction on how many factors may be cut down: is open in the product topology when every is open and for all but finitely many , those being exactly the basic product-open sets (The product set of functions choosing a point in each factor, the projections, the box topology, and the product topology as the initial topology of the projections; the empty product is a one-point space, Basis and subbasis for a topology, and the topology generated by a family of sets). The unrestricted claim is the definition of the box topology, which is finer, and is strictly finer under the hypotheses of claim 3 of The box topology is finer than the product topology, the two agree for a finite index set in ZF, and, assuming the Axiom of Choice for nonempty factors, the box topology is strictly finer whenever infinitely many factors have a nonempty proper open subset, which assumes the Axiom of Choice (The Axiom of Choice); the witness written out below exhibits the strictness in with no choice principle at all.
The refutation uses with the usual topology on each factor (The absolute value makes a metric space: is a metric, its open balls are the intervals , and it is unbounded, Metrizable space: a topological space whose topology is induced by some metric; metrizability is topological, the metric is not) and the single open set in every factor: is not open in the product topology, although is open in .
Facts & Assumptions
Given: The product with the product topology, the set , and the point with for every , where is the inverse of (The canonical natural of a field).
A basis for the product topology on is the family of boxes with every open in and off a list with (The product set of functions choosing a point in each factor, the projections, the box topology, and the product topology as the initial topology of the projections; the empty product is a one-point space, Basis and subbasis for a topology, and the topology generated by a family of sets).
; it is nonempty and , since whenever ; and is open in the usual topology of (Intervals of : the nine order-convex forms, nondegeneracy, and length, The absolute value makes a metric space: is a metric, its open balls are the intervals , and it is unbounded, Metrizable space: a topological space whose topology is induced by some metric; metrizability is topological, the metric is not).
is strictly increasing on , hence injective (Canonical naturals are positive and strictly increasing, The canonical natural of a field).
For every natural and reals the set has a maximum (Every nonempty finite set of reals has a maximum and a minimum).
A topology is a family of subsets of the underlying set, and every member of a basis of it is open (Topology on a set, open and closed sets, clopen sets, the closed-set axiomatisation, and the coarser/finer comparison).
Refutation
, since for every by [A2].
, since by [L1] and membership of requires by [A2].
Suppose were open in the product topology. Then by [A1] there is a basic product-open with , and for every outside a list with .
There is with : for the list is empty and serves; for the set has a maximum by [L3], attained at some , and satisfies , hence , for every by [L2].
Let be the point with and for . Then , since and for , using .
, since by step 1.2.
Steps 3.1 and 4.1 contradict from step 1.3, so is not open in the product topology although every factor is open in ; the claim is therefore false.
Remarks
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The correct statement, and why the finiteness is there. The basic open sets of a product are the finite intersections of the sets , and each of those constrains one coordinate only; a finite intersection therefore constrains finitely many coordinates. Constraining all of them at once, as does, is a box, and a box need not be a union of such finite intersections.
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Nothing is wrong with as a set or as a space. It is a perfectly good subspace of , and by claim 1 of Products commute with subspaces; for infinite nonempty families, the closure identity uses the Axiom of Choice its subspace topology is the product of the subspace topologies of the factors. What fails is only that it is not an open subset of the ambient product.
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The same computation with shrinking intervals gives the sharper failure. Replacing by produces a box whose only product-interior point would have to have all but finitely many coordinates unrestricted, and that box separates the two topologies outright; that is the false statement immediately before this one.
Depends on
- The product set $\prod_{i \in I} X_i$ of functions choosing a point in each factor, the projections, the box topology, and the product topology as the initial topology of the projections; the empty product is a one-point space
- The box topology is finer than the product topology, the two agree for a finite index set in ZF, and, assuming the Axiom of Choice for nonempty factors, the box topology is strictly finer whenever infinitely many factors have a nonempty proper open subset
- Basis and subbasis for a topology, and the topology generated by a family of sets
- Metrizable space: a topological space whose topology is induced by some metric; metrizability is topological, the metric is not
- The absolute value makes $\mathbb{R}$ a metric space: $d(x,y) = |x-y|$ is a metric, its open balls are the intervals $(x-r, x+r)$, and it is unbounded
- Intervals of $\mathbb{R}$: the nine order-convex forms, nondegeneracy, and length
- Every nonempty finite set of reals has a maximum and a minimum
- The canonical natural $\iota(n) = n \cdot 1_F$ of a field
- Canonical naturals are positive and strictly increasing
- The multiplicative identity is positive
- Topology on a set, open and closed sets, clopen sets, the closed-set axiomatisation, and the coarser/finer comparison
- The Axiom of Choice
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Sources
- Product topology (Wikipedia) (standard reference, not scraped)
- Box topology (Wikipedia) (standard reference, not scraped)