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FALSE: iUi\prod_i U_i is open in the product topology whenever every UiU_i is open

Statement

False claim: if UiU_i is open in XiX_i for every iIi \in I, then iIUi\prod_{i \in I} U_i is open in iIXi\prod_{i \in I} X_i with the product topology (The product set iIXi\prod_{i \in I} X_i of functions choosing a point in each factor, the projections, the box topology, and the product topology as the initial topology of the projections; the empty product is a one-point space).

What is true is the version with a restriction on how many factors may be cut down: iUi\prod_i U_i is open in the product topology when every UiU_i is open and Ui=XiU_i = X_i for all but finitely many ii, those being exactly the basic product-open sets (The product set iIXi\prod_{i \in I} X_i of functions choosing a point in each factor, the projections, the box topology, and the product topology as the initial topology of the projections; the empty product is a one-point space, Basis and subbasis for a topology, and the topology generated by a family of sets). The unrestricted claim is the definition of the box topology, which is finer, and is strictly finer under the hypotheses of claim 3 of The box topology is finer than the product topology, the two agree for a finite index set in ZF, and, assuming the Axiom of Choice for nonempty factors, the box topology is strictly finer whenever infinitely many factors have a nonempty proper open subset, which assumes the Axiom of Choice (The Axiom of Choice); the witness written out below exhibits the strictness in RN\mathbb{R}^{\mathbb{N}} with no choice principle at all.

The refutation uses RN=kNR\mathbb{R}^{\mathbb{N}} = \prod_{k \in \mathbb{N}}\mathbb{R} with the usual topology on each factor (The absolute value makes R\mathbb{R} a metric space: d(x,y)=xyd(x,y) = |x-y| is a metric, its open balls are the intervals (xr,x+r)(x-r, x+r), and it is unbounded, Metrizable space: a topological space whose topology is induced by some metric; metrizability is topological, the metric is not) and the single open set Uk:=(0,1)U_k := (0,1) in every factor: k(0,1)\prod_{k} (0,1) is not open in the product topology, although (0,1)(0,1) is open in R\mathbb{R}.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The product P:=kNRP := \prod_{k \in \mathbb{N}} \mathbb{R} with the product topology, the set C:=kN(0,1)PC := \prod_{k \in \mathbb{N}} (0,1) \subseteq P, and the point cPc \in P with ck=1/2c_k = 1/2 for every kk, where 1/21/2 is the inverse of ι(2)\iota(2) (The canonical natural ι(n)=n1F\iota(n) = n \cdot 1_F of a field).

[A1]

A basis for the product topology on PP is the family of boxes kOk\prod_k O_k with every OkO_k open in R\mathbb{R} and Ok=RO_k = \mathbb{R} off a list j0,,jn1j_0,\dots,j_{n-1} with nNn \in \mathbb{N} (The product set iIXi\prod_{i \in I} X_i of functions choosing a point in each factor, the projections, the box topology, and the product topology as the initial topology of the projections; the empty product is a one-point space, Basis and subbasis for a topology, and the topology generated by a family of sets).

[A2]

(0,1)={tR:0<t<1}(0,1) = \{\, t \in \mathbb{R} : 0 < t < 1 \,\}; it is nonempty and 0<1/2<10 < 1/2 < 1, since a<(a+b)/2<ba < (a+b)/2 < b whenever a<ba < b; and (0,1)(0,1) is open in the usual topology of R\mathbb{R} (Intervals of R\mathbb{R}: the nine order-convex forms, nondegeneracy, and length, The absolute value makes R\mathbb{R} a metric space: d(x,y)=xyd(x,y) = |x-y| is a metric, its open balls are the intervals (xr,x+r)(x-r, x+r), and it is unbounded, Metrizable space: a topological space whose topology is induced by some metric; metrizability is topological, the metric is not).

[L1]

0<10 < 1, so 1<1+1=21 < 1 + 1 = 2 (The multiplicative identity is positive).

[L3]

For every natural n1n \ge 1 and reals a0,,an1a_0,\dots,a_{n-1} the set {a0,,an1}\{a_0,\dots,a_{n-1}\} has a maximum (Every nonempty finite set of reals has a maximum and a minimum).

[L4]

A topology is a family of subsets of the underlying set, and every member of a basis of it is open (Topology on a set, open and closed sets, clopen sets, the closed-set axiomatisation, and the coarser/finer comparison).

Refutation

technique · direct
1.1

cCc \in C, since ck=1/2(0,1)c_k = 1/2 \in (0,1) for every kk by [A2].

A2
1.2

2(0,1)2 \notin (0,1), since 1<21 < 2 by [L1] and membership of (0,1)(0,1) requires t<1t < 1 by [A2].

A2L1
1.3

Suppose CC were open in the product topology. Then by [A1] there is a basic product-open O=kOkO = \prod_k O_k with cOCc \in O \subseteq C, and Ok=RO_k = \mathbb{R} for every kk outside a list j0,,jn1j_0,\dots,j_{n-1} with nNn \in \mathbb{N}.

A1L4assume-hyp
2.1

There is jNj \in \mathbb{N} with Oj=RO_j = \mathbb{R}: for n=0n = 0 the list is empty and j:=0j := 0 serves; for n1n \ge 1 the set {ι(j0),,ι(jn1)}\{\iota(j_0),\dots,\iota(j_{n-1})\} has a maximum by [L3], attained at some m0<nm_0 < n, and j:=jm0+1j := j_{m_0} + 1 satisfies ι(j)>ι(jm)\iota(j) > \iota(j_m), hence jjmj \ne j_m, for every m<nm < n by [L2].

step 1.3L2L3
3.1

Let yPy \in P be the point with yj:=2y_j := 2 and yk:=ck=1/2y_k := c_k = 1/2 for kjk \ne j. Then yOy \in O, since yjR=Ojy_j \in \mathbb{R} = O_j and yk=ckOky_k = c_k \in O_k for kjk \ne j, using cOc \in O.

step 1.3step 2.1
4.1

yCy \notin C, since yj=2(0,1)y_j = 2 \notin (0,1) by step 1.2.

step 1.2step 3.1
5.1

Steps 3.1 and 4.1 contradict OCO \subseteq C from step 1.3, so CC is not open in the product topology although every factor (0,1)(0,1) is open in R\mathbb{R}; the claim is therefore false.

step 1.1step 1.3step 3.1step 4.1

Remarks

  • The correct statement, and why the finiteness is there. The basic open sets of a product are the finite intersections of the sets πi1[U]\pi_i^{-1}[U], and each of those constrains one coordinate only; a finite intersection therefore constrains finitely many coordinates. Constraining all of them at once, as CC does, is a box, and a box need not be a union of such finite intersections.

  • Nothing is wrong with k(0,1)\prod_k (0,1) as a set or as a space. It is a perfectly good subspace of RN\mathbb{R}^{\mathbb{N}}, and by claim 1 of Products commute with subspaces; for infinite nonempty families, the closure identity Ai=Ai\overline{\prod A_i}=\prod \overline{A_i} uses the Axiom of Choice its subspace topology is the product of the subspace topologies of the factors. What fails is only that it is not an open subset of the ambient product.

  • The same computation with shrinking intervals gives the sharper failure. Replacing (0,1)(0,1) by (1/(k+1), 1/(k+1))(-1/(k+1),\ 1/(k+1)) produces a box whose only product-interior point would have to have all but finitely many coordinates unrestricted, and that box separates the two topologies outright; that is the false statement immediately before this one.

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