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Graph-domain Ehrenfest identities and the conditional timescale bound

Statement

Assume the Axiom of Countable Choice (The Axiom of Countable Choice (ACω)). Let H be a complex Hilbert space (Real and complex inner product spaces, with the inner product linear in the first argument, Hilbert space), let K,A be self-adjoint operators on H, let I⊆R be a nonempty open interval, fix ℏ>0 and let ψ:I→H satisfy, for every t∈I:

  1. ψ(t)∈D(A), and the curve is C1 into D(A) with the graph norm of A (Unbounded linear operators: domain, graph and extension, Densely defined, closed and closable operators, and cores), meaning that both t↦ψ(t) and t↦Aψ(t) are C1 into H;
  2. Kψ(t)∈D(A), that is ψ(t)∈D(AK); the additional condition Aψ(t)∈D(K) (that is ψ(t)∈D(KA)) is imposed only in the clauses that state it;
  3. ψ′(t)=−iℏKψ(t) in H.

Then, writing f(t):=⟨Aψ(t),ψ(t)⟩ and (KA−AK)ψ:=K(Aψ)−A(Kψ) for ψ∈D(AK)∩D(KA):

(a) if hypotheses 1 and 3 and Kψ(t)∈D(A) for all t hold (that is, ψ(t)∈D(AK)), then f is C1 on I and f′(t)=−2ℏIm⁡⟨Aψ(t),Kψ(t)⟩; if moreover Aψ(t)∈D(K) for all t (that is, ψ(t)∈D(KA)), then also f′(t)=iℏ⟨(KA−AK)ψ(t),ψ(t)⟩;

(b) if (At)t∈I is a family of bounded self-adjoint operators that is C1 in operator norm and ψ satisfies 1 and 3 above (no product-domain hypothesis), then g(t):=⟨Atψ(t),ψ(t)⟩ is C1 with g′(t)=⟨At′ψ(t),ψ(t)⟩−2ℏIm⁡⟨Atψ(t),Kψ(t)⟩; if in addition Atψ(t)∈D(K) and Kψ(t)∈D(At) for all t, then this equals ⟨At′ψ(t),ψ(t)⟩+iℏ⟨[K,At]ψ(t),ψ(t)⟩;

(c) if moreover ∥ψ(t)∥=1 for all t and for a fixed self-adjoint A as in (a) one has f′(t0)≠0 at some t0∈I, then with the preparation spreads ΔK(t0):=∥(K−⟨Kψ(t0),ψ(t0)⟩)ψ(t0)∥,ΔA(t0):=∥(A−f(t0))ψ(t0)∥, and the timescale τA(t0):=ΔA(t0)/∣f′(t0)∣, the bound ΔK(t0) τA(t0)≥ℏ2 holds;

(d) if f′(t0)=0 then the definition of τA(t0) supplies no timescale, and no universal time operator, apparatus error or energy-time observable is asserted by (a)-(c).

Facts & Assumptions

Given: self-adjoint K,A on a complex Hilbert space H, an open interval I, a curve ψ satisfying hypotheses 1-3 with Kψ(t)∈D(A) (and Aψ(t)∈D(K) where a clause states it), the function f(t)=⟨Aψ(t),ψ(t)⟩ and the notation (KA−AK)ψ=K(Aψ)−A(Kψ).

[F1]

A self-adjoint operator is closed and symmetric; T∗=T, D(T)=D(T∗), and ⟨Tv,w⟩=⟨v,Tw⟩ for v,w∈D(T) (Symmetric, self-adjoint and essentially self-adjoint operators, Adjoint of a densely defined operator, Densely defined, closed and closable operators, and cores).

[F2]

Hypotheses 1 and 2: t↦ψ(t) and t↦Aψ(t) are C1 into H, and Kψ(t)∈D(A); Aψ(t)∈D(K) is assumed only for the commutator clauses. Because A is closed and t↦ψ(t) is C1 into D(A), the derivative of t↦Aψ(t) is Aψ′(t): the graph-norm difference quotients converge to ψ′(t), and applying the closed operator A to the limit gives (Aψ)′(t)=Aψ′(t) (Unbounded linear operators: domain, graph and extension, Densely defined, closed and closable operators, and cores).

[F3]

For symmetric K,A and a unit u∈D(K)∩D(A), clause (b) of Covariance-refined preparation uncertainty without operator products gives ΔK ΔA≥∣Im⁡⟨(A−⟨Au,u⟩)u,(K−⟨Ku,u⟩)u⟩∣=∣Im⁡⟨Au,Ku⟩∣, since both means are real. No product-domain hypothesis is needed for this bound. The weak-form Robertson lemma of Weak-form Robertson uncertainty on a common domain: for symmetric K,A, a unit u∈D(K)∩D(A) with u∈D(KA)∩D(AK) satisfies ΔK ΔA≥12∣⟨[K,A]u,u⟩∣, where [K,A]u=KAu−AKu (clause (c)); the covariance form of the same bound is Covariance-refined preparation uncertainty without operator products clause (d).

Proof

1.1givenF2algebra

[Differentiability of f] By [F2], (Aψ)′(t)=Aψ′(t) and both factors Aψ(t) and ψ(t) are C1 into H; the product rule for the inner product gives f′(t)=⟨(Aψ)′(t),ψ(t)⟩+⟨Aψ(t),ψ′(t)⟩=⟨Aψ′(t),ψ(t)⟩+⟨Aψ(t),ψ′(t)⟩.

1.2givenF1algebra

[Bounded time-dependent observable] Let At be a bounded self-adjoint family, C1 in operator norm, and g(t)=⟨Atψ(t),ψ(t)⟩. By the product rule for the three C1 factors, g′=⟨At′ψ,ψ⟩+⟨Atψ′,ψ⟩+⟨Atψ,ψ′⟩; self-adjointness of At combines the last two terms into 2Re⁡⟨Atψ′,ψ⟩=2Re⁡(−iℏq) with q:=⟨AtKψ,ψ⟩, and for q=x+iy one has −iℏq=y−ixℏ, so 2Re⁡(−iℏq)=2yℏ=2ℏIm⁡q. Since At is self-adjoint, q=⟨AtKψ,ψ⟩=⟨Kψ,Atψ⟩=⟨Atψ,Kψ⟩‾, hence Im⁡q=−Im⁡⟨Atψ,Kψ⟩ and g′=⟨At′ψ,ψ⟩−2ℏIm⁡⟨Atψ,Kψ⟩. If in addition Atψ∈D(K) and Kψ∈D(At), then ⟨KAtψ,ψ⟩=⟨Atψ,Kψ⟩ and ⟨AtKψ,ψ⟩=⟨Kψ,Atψ⟩=⟨Atψ,Kψ⟩‾, so ⟨[K,At]ψ,ψ⟩=2iIm⁡⟨Atψ,Kψ⟩ and −2ℏIm⁡⟨Atψ,Kψ⟩=iℏ⟨[K,At]ψ,ψ⟩, completing (b).

2.1givenstep 1.1F1algebra

[The commutator form] Since ψ′(t)∈D(A) by hypothesis 1 and A is symmetric [F1], ⟨Aψ′(t),ψ(t)⟩=⟨ψ′(t),Aψ(t)⟩, so f′(t)=2Re⁡⟨ψ′(t),Aψ(t)⟩. Substituting ψ′=−iℏKψ and writing z:=⟨Aψ(t),Kψ(t)⟩, we get f′=2Re⁡(−iℏ⟨Kψ,Aψ⟩)=2Re⁡(−iℏz‾); since Re⁡(−iℏz‾)=Re⁡(−iℏ(Re⁡z−iIm⁡z))=−1ℏIm⁡z, this gives f′=−2ℏIm⁡⟨Aψ,Kψ⟩.

3.1givenstep 2.1F1algebra

[The commutator pairing] Assume in addition Aψ(t)∈D(K). Then the pairings ⟨KAψ,ψ⟩=⟨Aψ,Kψ⟩ (symmetry of K with Aψ(t)∈D(K)) and ⟨AKψ,ψ⟩=⟨Kψ,Aψ⟩=⟨Aψ,Kψ⟩‾ (symmetry of A with Kψ(t)∈D(A)) are defined, so ⟨(KA−AK)ψ,ψ⟩=z−z‾=2iIm⁡z with z as in step 2.1, and iℏ(z−z‾)=iℏ⋅2iIm⁡z=−2ℏIm⁡z, which is the second displayed form of f′. This proves (a).

3.2givenstep 2.1F3algebra

[Timescale bound] Let u:=ψ(t0) with ∥u∥=1 and f′(t0)≠0. By hypotheses 1-3, u∈D(K)∩D(A) and Ku∈D(A), so step 2.1 gives ∣f′(t0)∣=(2/ℏ)∣Im⁡⟨Au,Ku⟩∣. The weak bound in [F3] gives ΔK(t0)ΔA(t0)≥∣Im⁡⟨Au,Ku⟩∣=(ℏ/2)∣f′(t0)∣. Dividing by ∣f′(t0)∣>0 proves (c), without assuming Au∈D(K).

4.1givenstep 3.2algebra∎

[Scope and vanishing derivative] If f′(t0)=0, the quotient τA(t0)=ΔA(t0)/∣f′(t0)∣ is undefined, so no timescale is supplied; and nothing in the argument produces a time operator, a measurement error or an energy-time observable, since all quantities were formed from the specified curve and the two operators. This is (d).

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