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Graph-domain Ehrenfest identities and the conditional timescale bound
Statement
Assume the Axiom of Countable Choice (The Axiom of Countable Choice ()). Let be a complex Hilbert space (Real and complex inner product spaces, with the inner product linear in the first argument, Hilbert space), let be self-adjoint operators on , let be a nonempty open interval, fix and let satisfy, for every :
- , and the curve is into with the graph norm of (Unbounded linear operators: domain, graph and extension, Densely defined, closed and closable operators, and cores), meaning that both and are into ;
- , that is ; the additional condition (that is ) is imposed only in the clauses that state it;
- in .
Then, writing and for :
(a) if hypotheses 1 and 3 and for all hold (that is, ), then is on and if moreover for all (that is, ), then also ;
(b) if is a family of bounded self-adjoint operators that is in operator norm and satisfies 1 and 3 above (no product-domain hypothesis), then is with if in addition and for all , then this equals ;
(c) if moreover for all and for a fixed self-adjoint as in (a) one has at some , then with the preparation spreads and the timescale , the bound holds;
(d) if then the definition of supplies no timescale, and no universal time operator, apparatus error or energy-time observable is asserted by (a)-(c).
Facts & Assumptions
Given: self-adjoint on a complex Hilbert space , an open interval , a curve satisfying hypotheses 1-3 with (and where a clause states it), the function and the notation .
A self-adjoint operator is closed and symmetric; , , and for (Symmetric, self-adjoint and essentially self-adjoint operators, Adjoint of a densely defined operator, Densely defined, closed and closable operators, and cores).
Hypotheses 1 and 2: and are into , and ; is assumed only for the commutator clauses. Because is closed and is into , the derivative of is : the graph-norm difference quotients converge to , and applying the closed operator to the limit gives (Unbounded linear operators: domain, graph and extension, Densely defined, closed and closable operators, and cores).
For symmetric and a unit , clause (b) of Covariance-refined preparation uncertainty without operator products gives , since both means are real. No product-domain hypothesis is needed for this bound. The weak-form Robertson lemma of Weak-form Robertson uncertainty on a common domain: for symmetric , a unit with satisfies , where (clause (c)); the covariance form of the same bound is Covariance-refined preparation uncertainty without operator products clause (d).
Proof
[Differentiability of ] By [F2], and both factors and are into ; the product rule for the inner product gives .
[Bounded time-dependent observable] Let be a bounded self-adjoint family, in operator norm, and . By the product rule for the three factors, ; self-adjointness of combines the last two terms into with , and for one has , so . Since is self-adjoint, , hence and . If in addition and , then and , so and , completing (b).
[The commutator form] Since by hypothesis 1 and is symmetric [F1], , so . Substituting and writing , we get ; since , this gives .
[The commutator pairing] Assume in addition . Then the pairings (symmetry of with ) and (symmetry of with ) are defined, so with as in step 2.1, and , which is the second displayed form of . This proves (a).
[Timescale bound] Let with and . By hypotheses 1-3, and , so step 2.1 gives . The weak bound in [F3] gives . Dividing by proves (c), without assuming .
[Scope and vanishing derivative] If , the quotient is undefined, so no timescale is supplied; and nothing in the argument produces a time operator, a measurement error or an energy-time observable, since all quantities were formed from the specified curve and the two operators. This is (d).
Depends on
Weak-form Robertson uncertainty on a common domain
Covariance-refined preparation uncertainty without operator products
Symmetric, self-adjoint and essentially self-adjoint operators
Adjoint of a densely defined operator
Densely defined, closed and closable operators, and cores
Unbounded linear operators: domain, graph and extension
Real and complex inner product spaces, with the inner product linear in the first argument
Hilbert space
The Axiom of Countable Choice ()