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A nonzero function on a null set has zero Lp seminorm

Statement refuted

Every nonzero measurable function has positive Lp seminorm.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The rational indicator on [0,1].

[L1]

Q is countable and countable subsets of R are null (Q is countably infinite, Every at most countable subset of R has measure zero).

[L2]

Null functions are exactly the zero-seminorm class in every range treated on this page (Null functions form a linear subspace and are exactly the zero-seminorm class).

Counterexample

Proof technique: Use the indicator of a countable null subset of [0,1]. It is not the zero function, but its p-seminorm and essential supremum both vanish.

1.1

Let f:=χQ[0,1]. Then f is not the zero function, [given] because f(q)=1 for every rational q[0,1].

1.2

By [L1], the support of f is null, so f=0 almost everywhere. Therefore [L1, L2] [L2] gives fp=0 in every finite-p range treated on the page, and also f=0.

2.1

Thus a nonzero measurable function can have zero Lp seminorm.

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