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Flat and finite type is not open without finite presentation

Statement refuted

False claim. Every flat morphism of finite type is open, and a quotient R→R/I of finite type is finitely presented.

Counterexample with witness. Assume the Axiom of Choice. Let k be a field, R=∏n≥1k,I=⨁n≥1k⊆R the ideal of finite-support sequences. Then the quotient map Spec⁡(R/I)→Spec⁡R is flat and of finite type, but it is not open, and R/I is not a finitely presented R-algebra.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The data and hypotheses displayed in the Statement, with the conventions fixed there.

[F1]

A morphism f:X→S is flat at x when the local ring map makes OX,x flat over OS,f(x), and flat when this holds at every point (Flat morphism of schemes).

[F2]

An R-module M is flat if and only if the multiplication map J⊗RM→M is injective for every finitely generated ideal J⊆R (Flatness is equivalent to preserving injections and to the ideal and finitely generated ideal tests, criteria (1) and (4)).

[F3]

Let f:X→S be a morphism, U=Spec⁡B⊆X and V=Spec⁡A⊆S affine opens with f(U)⊆V. Then f is flat at every point of U if and only if B is flat over A; the direction from module flatness to pointwise flatness is choice-free (Affine-local flatness).

[F4]

A is of finite type over R when A=R[a1,…,an] for some n; at n=0 this is the image of the structure map R→A, so a quotient R/I with its quotient structure map is of finite type, and a morphism of affine schemes whose ring map is of finite type is (locally) of finite type (Subalgebra generated by a subset, algebras of finite type, and module-finite algebras, Locally finite presentation morphisms).

[F5]

A finitely presented R-algebra R→A has: for every surjection R[x1,…,xn]→A of R-algebras, the kernel is a finitely generated ideal (Stacks, Algebra, Lemma 10.6.3). In particular, if the quotient map R→R/I (zero generators, no relations besides the kernel) presents a finitely presented R-algebra, then I is finitely generated (Finitely presented modules and finitely presented algebras).

[F6]

Assume the Axiom of Choice. If C⊆Spec⁡R is clopen, then there is an idempotent e∈R with C=V(e)=D(1−e) (A clopen decomposition of the spectrum comes from a nontrivial idempotent).

[F7]

Assume the Axiom of Choice. If Z=V(J)⊆Spec⁡R is closed, then the unique radical ideal defining Z is J (Every Zariski-closed subset has a unique radical defining ideal).

[F8]

A ring map φ:R→S induces the contraction map on spectra, q↦φ−1(q); for the quotient map R→R/I the primes of R/I correspond to the primes of R containing I, and the image of Spec⁡(R/I) consists of exactly those primes (The map of affine spectra induced by a ring homomorphism, The underlying space of an affine spectrum).

[F9]

In a field, xn=0 implies x=0 (Prime ideals and maximal ideals in a commutative ring); consequently a sequence (xn)∈R has the same support as its k-th power (xnk), and R is reduced.

Counterexample

technique · direct
1.1algebra

Write elements of R as sequences x=(xn)n≥1 with xn∈k. For x∈R define e(x)∈R by e(x)n=1 if xn≠0 and e(x)n=0 if xn=0, and let y∈R have yn=xn−1 when xn≠0 and yn=0 otherwise. Then e(x)2=e(x), xe(x)=x and xy=e(x), so (x)=(e(x)) is generated by an idempotent.

1.2givenalgebra

The ideal I=⨁n≥1k is not finitely generated: if I=(x1,…,xm), each xj∈I has finite support Sj, every R-linear combination of the xj is supported in the finite set S1∪⋯∪Sm, but for any n∉S1∪⋯∪Sm the element with 1 at n and 0 elsewhere lies in I and is not supported there.

1.3F4

The map is of finite type: R/I is generated as an R-algebra by the empty set, since its structure map R→R/I is surjective, so it is of finite type over R by [F4]; on the affine charts this is a finite-type ring map.

1.4F8

The underlying map of Spec⁡(R/I)→Spec⁡R is the contraction of primes along the surjection R→R/I, so its image is the set of primes of R containing I, which is exactly the closed set V(I) of [F8]; thus the morphism is open only if V(I) is open.

1.5F9given

I is a radical ideal: if x∈R satisfies xk∈I then the support {n:xn≠0} equals the support of xk, which is finite because xk∈⨁n≥1k, so x∈I; hence R/I is reduced and I=I.

2.1step 1.1algebra

If e,f∈R are idempotent then (e+f−ef)2=e+f−ef and (e,f)=(e+f−ef): the generator is a combination of e,f, while e=e(e+f−ef) and f=f(e+f−ef). Hence by induction on the number of generators every finitely generated ideal of R is principal, generated by an idempotent.

2.2F6F7step 1.5

Suppose V(I) is open. It is closed by definition, hence clopen, so by [F6] there is an idempotent e∈R with V(I)=V(e); applying [F7] to the closed set Z=V(I)=V(e) and to the ideals I and (e) gives I=I(Z)=(e), so I=(e) because I=I by step 1.5.

2.3F5step 1.2

Finally R/I is not a finitely presented R-algebra: the quotient map R→R/I is a surjection from a polynomial ring in 0 variables, so by [F5] finite presentation of R/I would force its kernel I to be finitely generated, contrary to step 1.2.

3.1F2step 2.1

For every finitely generated ideal J⊆R we have J=(e) with e idempotent by step 2.1, and then eR∩I=eI=I⋅eR: an element of eR∩I equals er and lies in I, hence equals e(er)=er′ with er′∈eI; conversely eI⊆eR∩I. Therefore J∩I=JI, so the kernel (J∩I)/JI of the multiplication map J⊗RR/I→R/I is zero, i.e. the map is injective. Since this holds for every finitely generated ideal, R/I is a flat R-module by [F2].

3.2F9step 2.2

The ideal (e) is radical: if z∈R satisfies zk=er then coordinatewise znk=enrn, and en∈{0,1} because e is idempotent; for en=0 this gives zn=0=enzn by [F9], and for en=1 it gives zn=enzn, so z=ez∈(e). Hence (e)=(e), and step 2.2 yields I=(e), a principal ideal, hence a finitely generated ideal.

4.1F1F3step 3.1

The morphism Spec⁡(R/I)→Spec⁡R is flat: on the affine charts U=Spec⁡(R/I), V=Spec⁡R with f(U)⊆V the ring R/I is flat over R by step 3.1, and [F3] converts this into flatness at every point.

5.1step 1.2step 4.1step 1.3step 1.4step 3.2

Step 3.2 contradicts step 1.2, so V(I) is not open; by step 1.4 the morphism Spec⁡(R/I)→Spec⁡R is not open, while by steps 4.1 and 1.3 it is flat and of finite type.

6.1

The Axiom of Choice is used exactly twice: in step 2.2 through [F6] to convert the clopen set V(I) into an idempotent, and through [F7], which produces prime ideals. Steps 1.1 through 5.1 use no choice principle. [F6, F7, step 2.2] □

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