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is at most countable although it is not order isomorphic to : order type and cardinality are different invariants
Example
The ordinal is at most countable as a set (Finite, countably infinite, countable, uncountable), and it is not order isomorphic to (Order embedding and order isomorphism).
There is no tension. Countability is a statement about bijections and ignores order; order type is a statement about order isomorphisms and is finer. Two well-orders on the same countably infinite set can have different order types: and already show it, as the first example of this page records, and and show it with the two copies visible.
Facts & Assumptions
Given: The ordinals with the addition of Ordinal addition , and the least limit ordinal ( is the least limit ordinal, The natural numbers (von Neumann)).
, where is the set with the lexicographic order that puts the second copy above the first ( is the order type of followed by ).
Every well-order is order isomorphic to exactly one ordinal, its order type, and order isomorphic well-orders have the same order type; in particular an order isomorphism is a bijection (Every well-order has a unique order type, Order embedding and order isomorphism).
If and are at most countable then so is (A product of two at most countable sets is at most countable); a set equinumerous with an at most countable set is at most countable, and is symmetric and transitive (Finite, countably infinite, countable, uncountable, Equinumerous sets, and ).
is at most countable, being equinumerous with by the identity, and every natural number is at most countable (Finite, countably infinite, countable, uncountable, The natural numbers (von Neumann)).
; every ordinal is transitive and (Ordinal (von Neumann), Basic closure properties of ordinals, Trichotomy and well-ordering of the ordinals, Successor and limit ordinals).
Verification
As a set, , since ; and is at most countable by [L3] and [L4], both factors being at most countable.
: since , [L5] gives , and by [L6].
The order isomorphism of [L1] and [L2] from onto the ordinal is in particular a bijection, so is equinumerous with and hence at most countable by step 1.1 and [L3].
is not order isomorphic to : order isomorphic well-orders have the same order type by [L2], and and are distinct ordinals by step 1.2, each being its own order type.
So is an at most countable set carrying a well-order that is not a copy of the well-order : cardinality and order type are different invariants.
Remarks
How far this goes. Every ordinal strictly below is at most countable ( is uncountable, every ordinal below it is at most countable, it is a cardinal and a limit ordinal, and its existence is a theorem of ZF), and there are a great many of them: and are at most countable by the argument above, and no two distinct ordinals are isomorphic as orders. So a single countably infinite set carries uncountably many mutually non-isomorphic well-orders, one for each infinite ordinal below . Nothing here says the same of or of (, , and satisfying ): those are ordinals of larger order type, and their cardinality is a question no item on these pages settles, as that item's last remark records.
Why the argument does not need a choice principle. The bijection used at step 2.1 is the collapsing isomorphism of Every well-order has a unique order type, which is unique and therefore never chosen, and A product of two at most countable sets is at most countable is choice free too. Countability of a countable union of countable sets is a different matter and does cost ; that is Countable unions of at most countable sets, assuming and it is not used here.
The confusion this item exists to prevent. " is bigger than " is true as a statement about ordinals, where bigger means further along the ordinal order, and false as a statement about size. The two readings of "bigger" are exactly order type and cardinality.
Depends on
- Ordinal addition $\alpha + \beta$
- $\alpha + \beta$ is the order type of $\alpha$ followed by $\beta$
- Every well-order has a unique order type
- Finite, countably infinite, countable, uncountable
- A product of two at most countable sets is at most countable
- Equinumerous sets, $A \approx B$ and $A \preceq B$
- Order embedding and order isomorphism
- Monotonicity of ordinal $+$ and $\cdot$: strictly increasing and continuous in the right argument, weakly increasing in the left, with left cancellation, and the identities $0 + \beta = \beta$ and $1 \cdot \beta = \beta$
- Successor and limit ordinals
- $\omega$ is the least limit ordinal
- Basic closure properties of ordinals
- Trichotomy and well-ordering of the ordinals
- Ordinal (von Neumann)
- The natural numbers $\mathbb{N}$ (von Neumann)
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Sources
- Ordinal arithmetic (Wikipedia) (standard reference, not scraped)
- Countable set (Wikipedia) (standard reference, not scraped)
- First uncountable ordinal (Wikipedia) (standard reference, not scraped)