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Symmetric Extensions and Basic Choice-Failure Models: Examples and Counterexamples

1 · Prerequisites

2 · Summary

The first examples distinguish an invariant orbit set from its moved enumeration graph and calculate the three choice-free tests for Dedekind finiteness. The socks example carries out the compatible fresh-coordinate swap in the corrected pair-of-sets-of-reals construction.

Full generic extensions of ZFC grounds satisfy Choice, but symmetric inner models need not. The basic Cohen model alone refutes the universal false statement; the corrected socks model shows the stronger failure of choice for a countable family of pairs.

3 · Logical flowchart

4 · Definitions, theorems and proofs

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An orbit set can be symmetric when its enumeration is not

Statement

In the basic Cohen system, A={an:nω} has empty support, although the graph e={n,an:nω} is moved by a transposition outside every finite support. More generally, no enumeration of A belongs to the symmetric model, as the supplier's all-enumerations argument proves.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The hypotheses, objects, and conventions in the Statement.

[F1]

The Cohen reals form a symmetric set but their enumeration is not symmetric gives πan=aπ(n), proves that the an are pairwise distinct, and computes the supports of A and its canonical enumeration.

Proof

1.1

For every finite permutation π, πA={πan:nω}={aπ(n):nω}=A. Thus the whole automorphism group stabilizes A, so is a support.

F1
1.2

Let Eω be finite. Choose distinct n,mE and let π=(n m). Then πfix(E), but the pair n,an is sent to n,am in the action on the graph's value coordinate after the ground ordinal n is fixed. Since anam, πee. Hence no finite E supports e.

F1
2.1

The calculation separates an invariant unordered range from a non-symmetric ordering of that range. It does not claim merely that this particular graph is absent: F1 separately supplies the support argument excluding every enumeration. No Choice is used.

F1step 1.1step 1.2
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Equivalent Dedekind-finiteness tests in the basic Cohen model

Statement

For the basic Cohen set A, the following are equivalent in ZF: A has a countably infinite subset, there is an injection ωA, and A is in bijection with a proper subset. Their negations all hold in the basic Cohen model.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The hypotheses, objects, and conventions in the Statement.

[F1]

The basic Cohen model has an infinite Dedekind-finite set of reals proves that A is infinite and Dedekind-finite.

[F2]

Dedekind infinitude is equivalent to a countable subset gives the choice-free equivalence between Dedekind infinitude, an injection from ω, and a countably infinite subset.

Proof

1.1

If BA is countably infinite, a displayed bijection b:ωB followed by inclusion is an injection ωA. Conversely, the range of an injection i:ωA is a subset of A bijective with ω. These are explicit maps and require no simultaneous choices.

F2
1.2

From an injection i:ωA, define h:AA{i(0)} by h(i(n))=i(n+1) and h(x)=x off i[ω]. The two pieces are disjoint, and the inverse sends i(n+1) to i(n) and fixes the complement, so h is a bijection onto a proper subset.

F2
1.3

Conversely, if h:ABA is a bijection, choose the single witness x0AB and recursively put xn+1=h(xn). Injectivity of h and the fact that x0 is not in its range show by cancellation that the xn are distinct. Thus nxn injects ω into A. This uses one existential witness and recursion, not Countable Choice.

F2
2.1

F1 rules out the proper-subset bijection. By step 1.1, step 1.2, step 1.3 it therefore rules out an ω-injection and a countably infinite subset as well. Both implications of every equivalence have been accounted for in ZF.

F1step 1.1step 1.2step 1.3
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A coordinate swap defeats an atom-free sock choice

Statement

In the corrected atom-free socks construction, a fresh pair-coordinate swap has a compatible image condition and reverses a proposed decided choice.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The hypotheses, objects, and conventions in the Statement.

[F1]

The atom-free socks symmetric system supplies the forcing order, the names Rn,i and Pn, the block automorphisms, and the finite-support filter.

[F2]

Symmetry lemma for forcing automorphisms transports a forcing decision under the displayed automorphism.

[F3]

An atom-free symmetric model has countable pairs without choice proves that Pn={Rn,0,Rn,1} is a two-element set in the symmetric model, including the dense-set distinctness argument.

Proof

1.1

Suppose p forces that a supported name c is a choice function. Let E support both p and c. Pick n outside the finitely many pair indices occurring in E, and strengthen to qp deciding, after relabelling the two mates if necessary, qc(Pn)=Rn,0. This is a single forcing decision, not a sequence of choices.

F1assume-contra
1.2

Because q has finite domain, choose a natural-number coordinate cutoff beyond all coordinates of q in the nth blocks. Define an automorphism π which swaps the two n-blocks while translating the finitely used internal coordinates to unused coordinates, and fixes E. Then q and πq agree wherever both are defined, hence qπq is a condition.

F1
2.1

The support of c is fixed, so πc=c, while πRn,0=Rn,1 and πPn=Pn. By F2, equivariance transforms the decision in step 1.1 into πqc(Pn)=Rn,1. Their common extension forces Rn,0=Rn,1, contradicting F3. Thus the fresh coordinate swap defeats the proposed choice.

F1F2F3step 1.1step 1.2discharge-contradiction
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Every symmetric submodel satisfies Choice

Statement

False: full generic extensions of choice models preserve AC, but hereditarily symmetric names may omit enumerations and choice functions. The basic Cohen model and the corrected socks model are transitive ZF countermodels.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The hypotheses, objects, and conventions in the Statement.

[F1]

Generic extensions satisfy ZF and preserve ground-model Choice says that a full generic extension of a ZFC ground satisfies ZFC.

[F2]

The basic Cohen model fails well-orderability and AC gives a symmetric inner model with an infinite Dedekind-finite set of reals and hence failure of AC.

[F3]

An atom-free symmetric model has countable pairs without choice gives a symmetric inner model in which choice already fails for a countable family of pairs of sets of reals.

Counterexample

1.1

Let G be generic for the basic Cohen forcing over a ZFC ground. By F1 the ambient M[G] satisfies AC. The hereditarily symmetric interpretation NM[G], however, contains the invariant set A while every proposed enumeration is moved by a finite-support transposition. By F2, N¬AC. Thus N directly refutes the universal statement.

F1F2
1.2

The socks construction sharpens the same failure mode: the indexed pair family is invariant, while a swap outside a proposed choice name's finite support exchanges its selected mate. Hence the family lies in the symmetric model but no choice function does.

F3
2.1

The failed inference is therefore M[G]ACNAC. Transitivity and satisfaction of ZF pass to the symmetric interpretation by its separate model theorem; AC does not.

F1F2F3

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