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A subset topologically generates a finitely generated pro-p group exactly when its image spans the Frattini quotient over Fp

Statement

Let G be a finitely generated pro-p group and let SG. Then S topologically generates G if and only if its image spans the elementary abelian quotient G/Φ(G) over Fp.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A finitely generated pro-p group G and a subset SG.

[L1]
[L2]

In a finite p-group, a subset generates exactly when its image in the Frattini quotient spans that quotient (Burnside Basis Theorem).

[L3]

For a finite group, generation is detected modulo the Frattini subgroup (Generation of a finite group is detected modulo its Frattini subgroup).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

Suppose S topologically generates G. Then for every open normal subgroup N, the image of S generates the finite p-group G/N. By [L3], its image therefore generates (G/N)/Φ(G/N), and by [L2] that is the same as spanning the Frattini quotient over Fp. Passing over all finite quotients shows that the image of S spans G/Φ(G).

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2.1

Conversely, suppose the image of S spans G/Φ(G). Let N be any open normal subgroup. The image of S in (G/N)/Φ(G/N) then spans by functoriality of the Frattini quotient and [L1], so [L2] says that the image of S generates G/N. Hence the closure of the subgroup generated by S surjects onto every finite quotient G/N, and therefore equals G. So S topologically generates G.

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3.1

Steps 1.1 and 2.1 prove the equivalence. The empty set fits the statement when G=1, because then G/Φ(G)=0.

step 1.1step 2.1

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