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Pro P Groups and the P Adic Integers

1 · Prerequisites

2 · Summary

This page specializes profinite inverse limits to finite p-group quotients, builds Zp as compatible residue classes, identifies its metric and inverse-limit topologies, and then carries the finite Frattini and Burnside generation principles into the finitely generated pro-p setting.

3 · Logical flowchart

4 · Definitions, theorems and proofs

DefinitionDefinition: Literature-sourcedProof: Not applicablejudge pass (gpt-5.6-terra)audited 2026-09-04Open item page →

A pro-p group is a profinite group that is an inverse limit of finite p-groups

Definition

A pro-p group is a topological group that is topologically isomorphic to an inverse limit of finite p-groups. In particular every pro-p group is a profinite group in the sense of A profinite group is a topological group isomorphic to an inverse limit of finite discrete groups.

The prime p is part of the structure: a group is pro-p only when the finite quotients in the chosen inverse-limit presentation are all p-groups.

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The pro-p completion of an abstract group is the inverse limit over its finite p-group quotients

Definition

Fix a prime p, and let G be an abstract group. Its pro-p completion is

G^(p):=limNG, G/N a finite p-groupG/N,

where the indexing subgroups are ordered by reverse inclusion and the transition map G/NG/N is the natural quotient homomorphism whenever NN. This is a directed system: it contains G, and N1N2 is a common upper bound in the reverse-inclusion order because G/(N1N2) embeds in the finite p-group G/N1×G/N2. Give every quotient the discrete topology and the limit its inverse-limit topology.

This is the p-primary analogue of The profinite completion is the inverse limit of the finite quotients G over N: only finite quotients whose order is a power of p are retained, and the resulting topological group is pro-p by A pro-p group is a profinite group that is an inverse limit of finite p-groups.

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A topological group is pro-p exactly when it is profinite and has an open normal basis with finite p-group quotients

Statement

A topological group G is pro-p if and only if it is profinite and has a neighbourhood basis at the identity consisting of open normal subgroups N such that every quotient G/N is a finite p-group.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A topological group G.

[F1]

A pro-p group is, by definition, a topological group isomorphic to an inverse limit of finite p-groups (A pro-p group is a profinite group that is an inverse limit of finite p-groups).

[L1]

A profinite group is a topological group isomorphic to an inverse limit of finite discrete groups (A profinite group is a topological group isomorphic to an inverse limit of finite discrete groups).

[L2]

In an inverse-limit presentation by finite groups, the coordinate kernels form an open normal neighbourhood basis (The kernels of the finite coordinate projections form an open normal neighbourhood basis at the identity).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

If G is pro-p, then [F1] gives a presentation GlimiPi with each Pi a finite p-group. By [L1] this already makes G profinite, and [L2] supplies an open normal basis whose quotients are the coordinate images πi(G)Pi, hence finite p-groups.

F1L1L2givenalgebra
1.2

Conversely, suppose G is profinite and let N be an identity-neighbourhood basis of open normal subgroups with each G/N a finite p-group. Replace it by the basis of finite intersections of its members. The new basis has the same properties, because a quotient by N1Nr embeds in the product of the finite p-groups G/Nj, and it is directed by reverse inclusion. The quotient maps define a continuous homomorphism η:GlimNNG/N. Because the basis separates points, η is injective. A basic cylinder in the target prescribes finitely many compatible cosets, and their common refinement in N has a representative in G, so η is surjective. Its coordinate maps are exactly the quotient maps by open normal subgroups from the refined basis, so η is a homeomorphism. The target is an inverse limit of finite p-groups, hence [F1] makes G pro-p.

F1L1L2givenconstruct
2.1

Steps 1.1 and 1.2 prove both implications. The trivial group is included: it is the inverse limit of the constant system on 1, and its only finite quotient is the trivial p-group.

step 1.1step 1.2
DefinitionDefinition: Literature-sourcedProof: Not applicablejudge pass (gpt-5.6-terra)audited 2026-09-04Open item page →

The p-adic integers are the compatible residue-class tuples in the inverse limit of Z mod p^n

Definition

Fix a prime p. The p-adic integers are

Zp:=limn1Z/pnZ,

where the transition maps are reduction modulo pn. Concretely, Zp is the set of tuples x=(xn)n1 with xnZ/pnZ and

xn+1modpn=xn(n1),

so its elements are exactly the compatible tuples of The inverse limit is the set of compatible tuples in the Cartesian product.

With the inverse-limit topology, Zp is a pro-p group in the sense of A pro-p group is a profinite group that is an inverse limit of finite p-groups.

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Coordinatewise addition and negation make Zp a topological abelian group

Statement

If x=(xn) and y=(yn) are elements of Zp, then

x+y:=(xn+yn)n,x:=(xn)n

are again elements of Zp. With these operations and the inverse-limit topology, Zp is a topological abelian group.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: Two elements x=(xn) and y=(yn) of Zp.

[F1]

An element of Zp is a compatible tuple (xn)n1nZ/pnZ with xn+1modpn=xn for every n (The p-adic integers are the compatible residue-class tuples in the inverse limit of Z mod p^n).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

Because reduction modulo pn is a group homomorphism, compatibility of the tuples in [F1] gives (xn+1+yn+1)modpn=xn+yn and (xn+1)modpn=xn for every n. Thus x+y and x are again compatible tuples, so they lie in Zp.

F1givenalgebra
2.1

Associativity, commutativity, the zero element, and additive inverses all hold coordinatewise because they hold in every finite quotient Z/pnZ. The inverse-limit topology is the subspace topology from the product of the discrete coordinate groups, so coordinatewise addition and negation are continuous. Hence Zp is a topological abelian group.

F1step 1.1algebra
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The p-adic metric on Zp is determined by the first coordinate at which two compatible residue systems differ

Definition

For x=(xn) and y=(yn) in Zp, let

νp(x,y):=sup{m0:xr=yr in Z/prZ for every 1rm},

with νp(x,y)= when x=y. The p-adic metric on Zp is

dp(x,y):={0,x=y,pνp(x,y),xy.

Thus dp(x,y) is small exactly when the initial residue coordinates of x and y agree for a long stretch. This metric is defined directly on the compatible-tuple model of The p-adic integers are the compatible residue-class tuples in the inverse limit of Z mod p^n.

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The inverse-limit topology on Zp agrees with the p-adic metric topology

Statement

The inverse-limit topology on Zp coincides with the topology induced by the metric dp.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: An element x=(xn) of Zp and an integer n1.

[F1]

The metric on Zp is defined by the largest initial block of equal residue coordinates (The p-adic metric on Zp is determined by the first coordinate at which two compatible residue systems differ).

[L1]

The inverse-limit topology is the subspace topology from the product of the discrete quotients, and cylinder traces form a basis (The inverse limit of finite groups carries the subspace topology from the product of discrete factors).

[L2]

An element of Zp is exactly a compatible residue-class tuple (The p-adic integers are the compatible residue-class tuples in the inverse limit of Z mod p^n).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

Let Un(x):={y=(yr)Zp:yr=xr for 1rn}. By [F1], this is exactly the metric ball Un(x)={yZp:dp(x,y)pn}, because the first n residue coordinates agree if and only if the largest initial block of equal coordinates has length at least n.

F1L2givenalgebra
2.1

By [L1], the same set Un(x) is the trace on Zp of the cylinder in the product space that fixes the first n coordinates, so every basic metric ball is inverse-limit open. Conversely, let a basic inverse-limit cylinder C contain x and restrict the finite set of coordinates F. Taking nr for every rF, compatibility in [L2] shows that Un(x)C. Thus the sets Un(x) refine every inverse-limit neighbourhood of x.

L1L2step 1.1algebra
3.1

The sets Un(x) therefore form a neighbourhood basis for both topologies at every point x. So the inverse-limit topology and the metric topology coincide.

step 1.1step 2.1
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Zp is Hausdorff, totally disconnected, and complete, and compact assuming Choice

Statement

The space Zp is Hausdorff, totally disconnected, and complete for the p-adic metric. Assuming the Axiom of Choice, it is also compact.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A Cauchy sequence (x(m))m0 in Zp; for the compactness clause, also the Axiom of Choice.

[L1]

An inverse limit of finite discrete groups is Hausdorff, compact, and totally disconnected (Inverse limits of finite discrete groups are Hausdorff and totally disconnected, and compact assuming Choice).

[L2]

The inverse-limit and p-adic metric topologies on Zp agree (The inverse-limit topology on Zp agrees with the p-adic metric topology).

[L3]

Coordinatewise addition and negation make Zp a topological abelian group (Coordinatewise addition and negation make Zp a topological abelian group).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

By construction, Zp is an inverse limit of the finite discrete groups Z/pnZ. Therefore [L1] gives that Zp is Hausdorff and totally disconnected, and also compact under the extra Choice hypothesis named in the Statement. The group structure from [L3] is already compatible with this topology.

L1L3givenalgebra
1.2

Fix n1. Since the sequence is Cauchy and [L2] identifies the metric balls with the cylinder neighbourhoods, there exists Mn such that for all m,rMn the first n coordinates of x(m) and x(r) agree. Let an be that eventual common n-th coordinate. The compatibility of the x(m) forces the tuple a=(an)n1 itself to be compatible, hence an element of Zp.

L2givenchooseconstruct
2.1

For each n and every mMn, the first n coordinates of x(m) and a agree, so step 1.2 gives dp(x(m),a)pn. Given ε>0, choose n with pn<ε; then every mMn satisfies dp(x(m),a)<ε. Thus x(m)a in the p-adic metric. Every Cauchy sequence therefore converges, so Zp is complete.

step 1.2L2algebra
3.1

Steps 1.1 and 2.1 prove the stated properties.

step 1.1step 2.1
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The canonical map from Z to Zp sends an integer to its coherent residue classes modulo p^n

Definition

The canonical map from Z to Zp sends an integer m to the compatible tuple

(mmodpn)n1.

Compatibility is immediate because reducing mmodpn+1 modulo pn recovers mmodpn, so the image really lies in The p-adic integers are the compatible residue-class tuples in the inverse limit of Z mod p^n.

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The canonical map from the integers into Zp is injective and has dense image

Statement

The canonical homomorphism from Z to Zp is injective, and its image is dense in Zp.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The canonical map from Z to Zp.

[F1]

The canonical map sends m to the residue tuple (mmodpn)n1 (The canonical map from Z to Zp sends an integer to its coherent residue classes modulo p^n).

[L1]

An element of Zp is a compatible system of residue classes modulo pn (The p-adic integers are the compatible residue-class tuples in the inverse limit of Z mod p^n).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

If an integer m maps to 0, then [F1] says mmodpn=0 for every n1. Thus every power pn divides m, which is possible only for m=0. So the canonical map is injective.

F1givenalgebra
1.2

A basic neighbourhood in Zp fixes some residue class modulo pn. Let x=(xr)Zp and let n1. Choose an integer m representing the coordinate xnZ/pnZ. Then [F1] gives that the image of m has n-th coordinate xn, and [L1] implies that this image agrees with x in every earlier coordinate as well. So every basic neighbourhood of x meets the embedded copy of Z, which is therefore dense.

F1L1givenchoose
2.1

Step 1.1 proves injectivity and step 1.2 proves density. The zero element is treated in both arguments without any extra case split.

step 1.1step 1.2
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The additive group of Zp is torsion-free

Statement

The additive group of Zp has no nonzero torsion element.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: An element x=(xn)Zp and a positive integer m with mx=0.

[F1]

An element of Zp is a compatible tuple of residue classes modulo pn (The p-adic integers are the compatible residue-class tuples in the inverse limit of Z mod p^n).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

Write m=pau with a0 and pu. Multiplication by u is an automorphism of each cyclic group Z/pnZ, so from mx=0 it follows that pax=0. Assume for contradiction that x0, and choose the least index t1 with xt0. By [F1], the earlier coordinates vanish and the tuple is compatible, so xt is represented by an integer divisible by pt1; because xt0 in Z/ptZ, that representative is not divisible by pt. Thus xt has exact p-adic divisibility pt1.

F1givenchooseassume-contraalgebra
2.1

Compatibility propagates that exact divisibility to the coordinate xt+aZ/pt+aZ, because reducing xt+a modulo pt gives the nonzero class xt. Hence paxt+a is divisible by pt+a1 but not by pt+a, so it is nonzero in Z/pt+aZ. This contradicts pax=0. Therefore x=0, and Zp is torsion-free.

F1step 1.1discharge-contradiction
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The additive topological group of Zp is topologically generated by 1, although it is not abstractly cyclic

Statement

In the additive topological group Zp, the closure of Z1 is all of Zp. However, the additive group Zp is not cyclic as an abstract group.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The additive group of Zp and the element 1Zp.

[L1]

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

The subgroup generated by 1 consists exactly of the integer multiples n1, so it is the canonical image of Z in Zp. Therefore [L1] says that its closure is all of Zp.

L1givenalgebra
1.2

For every binary sequence ϵ=(ϵi)i0{0,1}N, define a compatible tuple x(ϵ) by x(ϵ)n:=i=0n1ϵipi(modpn). If two binary sequences first differ at index j, their (j+1)-st coordinates differ because their difference is divisible by pj but not by pj+1. Hence ϵx(ϵ) is injective.

givenconstructalgebra
2.1

Cantor's diagonal argument shows that {0,1}N is uncountable, so step 1.2 makes Zp uncountable. Every abstract cyclic group is the image of the countable group Z under nnγ for one generator γ, and is therefore countable. Hence the additive group of Zp cannot be cyclic.

step 1.2algebra
3.1

Step 1.1 proves topological generation by 1, while steps 1.2 and 2.1 show that no element can generate the additive group abstractly.

step 1.1step 1.2step 2.1
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Zp is the pro-p completion of the integers

Statement

The pro-p completion of the additive group Z is Zp, and the defining completion map is the canonical residue-class map ι:ZZp.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The additive group Z.

[F1]

The pro-p completion is the inverse limit over normal subgroups with finite p-group quotients (The pro-p completion of an abstract group is the inverse limit over its finite p-group quotients).

[L1]

The canonical map into Zp is m(mmodpn)n (The canonical map from Z to Zp sends an integer to its coherent residue classes modulo p^n).

[L2]

Compatible tuples satisfy the inverse-limit universal property (The compatible-tuple construction satisfies the inverse-limit universal property in groups).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

Every subgroup of the additive group Z has the form dZ. The quotient Z/dZ is a finite p-group exactly when d=pn for some n0, because every finite quotient of a cyclic group is cyclic. Thus the inverse system in [F1] is exactly the system of quotients Z/pnZ with the usual reduction maps.

F1givenalgebra
2.1

The compatible-tuple inverse limit of the system from step 1.1 is precisely Zp, and [L1] is the resulting canonical cone map from Z to that inverse limit. By [L2], this is the universal pro-p completion map. Therefore the pro-p completion of Z is Zp.

L1L2step 1.1
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The profinite completion of the integers is the direct product of the p-adic integer groups over all primes

Statement

There is a canonical topological group isomorphism

Z^p primeZp,

where the right-hand side is the external direct product equipped with the product topology.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The profinite completion Z^ and the family (Zp)p.

[L1]

For each prime p, the inverse limit of the p-power quotients of Z is Zp (Zp is the pro-p completion of the integers).

[F1]

The external direct product is formed componentwise (The external direct product G×H with componentwise multiplication).

[L2]

Compatible tuples satisfy the inverse-limit universal property (The compatible-tuple construction satisfies the inverse-limit universal property in groups).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

For each positive integer n=ppvp(n), the Chinese remainder theorem gives Z/nZpnZ/pvp(n)Z. These decompositions are compatible with the reduction maps as n varies by divisibility.

givenF1algebra
2.1

Passing to the inverse limit over all n therefore separates the finite quotients prime by prime: Z^=limnZ/nZplimrZ/prZ. The right-hand inverse limit is Zp by [L1], and [L2] identifies the induced map as the unique compatible morphism. Hence Z^pZp.

L1L2step 1.1algebra
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The Frattini subgroup of a profinite group is the intersection of its maximal proper closed subgroups

Definition

For a profinite group G, the Frattini subgroup is

Φ(G):={M<M maximal proper closed subgroup of G}.

The closure condition is part of the definition: in the profinite setting the maximal subgroups relevant to generation theory are maximal among proper closed subgroups, not arbitrary abstract subgroups.

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Every maximal proper closed subgroup of a profinite group is open

Statement

If H is a maximal proper closed subgroup of a profinite group G, then H is open.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A profinite group G and a maximal proper closed subgroup H<G.

[F1]

The Frattini subgroup is defined by maximal proper closed subgroups (The Frattini subgroup of a profinite group is the intersection of its maximal proper closed subgroups).

[L1]

A profinite group is an inverse limit of finite discrete groups (A profinite group is a topological group isomorphic to an inverse limit of finite discrete groups).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

Choose xGH. By [L1], write G as an inverse limit of finite groups and view H as a closed subset of that product. Since xH, some cylinder neighbourhood of x misses H; equivalently, there is an open normal subgroup N of G such that xNH=.

L1givenchoose
2.1

The subgroup HN is open because it is a union of N-cosets, and it is closed because it is a finite union of closed cosets. If HN=G, then x=hn for some hH and nN, so h=xn1xNH, contradicting step 1.1. Thus HN is a proper closed subgroup containing H. By maximality of H, one must have HN=H, hence NH. Therefore H contains an open neighbourhood of the identity and is itself open.

F1step 1.1algebra
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For surjective inverse systems in the pro-p setting, the Frattini subgroup commutes with the inverse limit

Statement

Let G=limiGi be a surjective inverse limit of finite p-groups, with coordinate projections πi:GGi. Then

Φ(G)={xG:πi(x)Φ(Gi) for every i}limiΦ(Gi).

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A surjective inverse system of finite p-groups with inverse limit G.

[F1]

The Frattini subgroup is the intersection of maximal proper closed subgroups (The Frattini subgroup of a profinite group is the intersection of its maximal proper closed subgroups).

[L1]

In a profinite group, maximal proper closed subgroups are open (Every maximal proper closed subgroup of a profinite group is open).

[L2]

The inverse limit has coordinate projections πi (The inverse limit has its canonical coordinate projection maps).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

By [F1] and [L1], Φ(G) is the intersection of the maximal open subgroups of G. If Mi is a maximal subgroup of some finite quotient Gi, then πi1(Mi) is a maximal open subgroup of G. Conversely, every maximal open subgroup U of G contains the kernel of some coordinate projection, so U=πi1(Mi) for a maximal subgroup Mi<Gi.

F1L1L2givenalgebra
2.1

Therefore an element xG lies in Φ(G) exactly when πi(x) lies in every maximal subgroup of every finite quotient Gi, that is, exactly when πi(x)Φ(Gi) for every i. The coordinatewise condition defines the inverse limit of the subgroups Φ(Gi), so Φ(G)limiΦ(Gi).

F1step 1.1algebra
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For a finitely generated pro-p group, the Frattini subgroup is the closure of [G,G]G^p

Statement

If G is a finitely generated pro-p group, then

Φ(G)=[G,G]Gp,

where Gp is the subgroup generated by the pth powers.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A finitely generated pro-p group G.

[L1]

For surjective inverse limits of finite p-groups, the Frattini subgroup is computed coordinatewise (For surjective inverse systems in the pro-p setting, the Frattini subgroup commutes with the inverse limit).

[L2]

For a finite p-group P, one has Φ(P)=PPp (Φ(P)=PPp for a finite p-group).

[F1]

The subgroup Gp is generated by the pth powers (The pth-power subgroup Gp).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

Let K:=[G,G]Gp. For every open normal subgroup NG, the finite quotient G/N is a finite p-group, and the image of K in G/N is [G,G]GpN/N=[G/N,G/N](G/N)p=Φ(G/N) by [L2] and [F1].

L2F1givenalgebra
2.1

By [L1], Φ(G) is the subgroup of all elements whose image in every finite quotient G/N lies in Φ(G/N). Step 1.1 shows that K has exactly the same image in every such quotient. Closed subgroups of a profinite group are determined by their images in all finite quotients, so K=Φ(G).

L1step 1.1algebra
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A subset topologically generates a finitely generated pro-p group exactly when its image spans the Frattini quotient over Fp

Statement

Let G be a finitely generated pro-p group and let SG. Then S topologically generates G if and only if its image spans the elementary abelian quotient G/Φ(G) over Fp.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A finitely generated pro-p group G and a subset SG.

[L1]
[L2]

In a finite p-group, a subset generates exactly when its image in the Frattini quotient spans that quotient (Burnside Basis Theorem).

[L3]

For a finite group, generation is detected modulo the Frattini subgroup (Generation of a finite group is detected modulo its Frattini subgroup).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

Suppose S topologically generates G. Then for every open normal subgroup N, the image of S generates the finite p-group G/N. By [L3], its image therefore generates (G/N)/Φ(G/N), and by [L2] that is the same as spanning the Frattini quotient over Fp. Passing over all finite quotients shows that the image of S spans G/Φ(G).

L1L2L3givenalgebra
2.1

Conversely, suppose the image of S spans G/Φ(G). Let N be any open normal subgroup. The image of S in (G/N)/Φ(G/N) then spans by functoriality of the Frattini quotient and [L1], so [L2] says that the image of S generates G/N. Hence the closure of the subgroup generated by S surjects onto every finite quotient G/N, and therefore equals G. So S topologically generates G.

L1L2step 1.1algebra
3.1

Steps 1.1 and 2.1 prove the equivalence. The empty set fits the statement when G=1, because then G/Φ(G)=0.

step 1.1step 2.1
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A homomorphism of finitely generated pro-p groups is surjective exactly when the induced map on Frattini quotients is surjective

Statement

Let f:GH be a continuous homomorphism of finitely generated pro-p groups. Then f is surjective if and only if the induced linear map G/Φ(G)H/Φ(H) is surjective.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A continuous homomorphism f:GH of finitely generated pro-p groups.

[L1]

In a finitely generated pro-p group, a subset topologically generates the group exactly when its image spans the Frattini quotient (A subset topologically generates a finitely generated pro-p group exactly when its image spans the Frattini quotient over Fp).

Proof

technique · direct
1.1

If f is surjective, then every quotient map induced by f, including G/Φ(G)H/Φ(H), is surjective.

given
1.2

Conversely, suppose G/Φ(G)H/Φ(H) is surjective, and let K:=f(G)H. The image of K in H/Φ(H) is all of H/Φ(H) by hypothesis, so [L1] says that K topologically generates H. But K is compact as the continuous image of the profinite group G, hence closed in the Hausdorff group H. A closed subgroup whose closure is all of H must equal H, so f is surjective.

L1givenalgebra
2.1

Steps 1.1 and 1.2 prove both implications. In the trivial-group boundary case, both maps are automatically surjective.

step 1.1step 1.2
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Zp is the full profinite completion of the integers

Statement

Zp is the full profinite completion of Z.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A prime p.

[L1]

Zp is the pro-p completion of Z (Zp is the pro-p completion of the integers).

[L2]

The full profinite completion of Z is qZq over all primes q (The profinite completion of the integers is the direct product of the p-adic integer groups over all primes).

Refutation

technique · direct
1.1

By [L1], Zp remembers only the finite quotients of Z whose order is a power of p.

L1given
2.1

By [L2], the full profinite completion also has the q-primary factor Zq for every prime qp. Therefore Zp omits the prime-to-p information and cannot be the whole profinite completion.

L2step 1.1
3.1

So the stated claim is false.

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Because every coordinate group is finite, Zp is an additive torsion group

Statement

Because every coordinate group Z/pnZ is finite, the additive group of Zp is torsion.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The additive group of Zp.

[L1]

The additive group of Zp is torsion-free (The additive group of Zp is torsion-free).

Refutation

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1.1

The element 1Zp is nonzero.

given
2.1

If the additive group of Zp were torsion, some positive multiple of 1 would be 0. That contradicts [L1], since [L1] says that no nonzero element of Zp has finite order.

L1step 1.1
3.1

Therefore the statement is false. Finite coordinate groups do not force torsion in the inverse limit.

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The additive group of Zp is cyclic as an abstract group

Statement

The additive group of Zp is cyclic as an abstract group.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The additive group of Zp.

[L1]

The element 1 topologically generates Zp, but the additive group is not abstractly cyclic (The additive topological group of Zp is topologically generated by 1, although it is not abstractly cyclic).

[L2]

The additive group of Zp is torsion-free (The additive group of Zp is torsion-free).

Refutation

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1.1

By [L1], the underlying set of Zp is uncountable, whereas the subgroup generated by any one element is the countable image of Z. Thus no element generates Zp as an abstract group.

L1given
2.1

In particular, step 1.1 rules out every infinite cyclic realization, while [L2] rules out every nontrivial finite cyclic realization. Hence the claim is false.

L2step 1.1algebra
3.1

Therefore Zp is topologically generated by one but not cyclic as an abstract group.

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For a finitely generated pro-p group, the Frattini formula retains the closure

Statement

For every finitely generated pro-p group G, one has Φ(G)=[G,G]Gp.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: A finitely generated pro-p group G.

[L1]

The closure-sensitive pro-p Frattini theorem states Φ(G)=[G,G]Gp (For a finitely generated pro-p group, the Frattini subgroup is the closure of [G,G]G^p).

[F2]

The subgroup Gp is generated by the pth powers (The pth-power subgroup Gp).

Proof

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1.1

The theorem [L1] applies to the finitely generated pro-p group fixed in the Statement, and the notation Gp is exactly that of [F2].

L1F2given
2.1

Therefore Φ(G)=[G,G]Gp as stated. The closure cannot be discarded merely by reading the abstract-group notation [G,G]Gp.

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Every profinite group is pro-p for some prime

Statement

Every profinite group is pro-p for some prime p.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The profinite completion Z^.

[F1]

A pro-p group is an inverse limit of finite p-groups (A pro-p group is a profinite group that is an inverse limit of finite p-groups).

Refutation

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1.1

The profinite group Z^ has nontrivial continuous quotients Zq for every prime q by [L1].

L1given
2.1

If Z^ were pro-p for some fixed prime p, then every finite quotient of Z^ would be a p-group by [F1]. For each prime qp, the projection to the q-adic factor followed by reduction modulo q gives a quotient Z^ZqZq/qZqZ/qZ, which is a nontrivial q-group. This contradiction shows that not every profinite group is pro-p.

F1step 1.1algebra
3.1

Therefore the statement is false.

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