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Quantitative Induced Density and the Log-Log Step: Examples

1 · Prerequisites

2 · Summary

These computations distinguish good copies from all labelled induced embeddings, evaluate the constant and logarithmic divisibility functions at x=1/16, and compare the two density losses with distinct symbolic constants. The numerical fractions illustrate the formulas; they do not certify numerical theorem constants for an arbitrary forbidden graph.

3 · Logical flowchart

4 · Definitions, theorems and proofs

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5 · Examples, counterexamples and false statements

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A labelled blowup and its good copies

Example

Label P3 by 1,2,3, with edges 12,23. Let Ai={(i,1),(i,2),(i,3)}. Make each Ai independent, put all edges between A1,A2 and between A2,A3, and no edges between A1,A3. This blowup has 27 good copies, 9 good copies extending any prescribed middle vertex, and 126 total labelled induced embeddings of P3.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: The three explicit blocks and edges specified in the example, with P3 labelled 1,2,3.

[F1]

From Labelled blowup and good induced copy: For IV(J), a good embedding of J[I] is an induced embedding ϕ satisfying ϕ(i)Ai for every iI.

[F2]

From Good copy extension count: Every good embedding of J[I], IV(J), has at least (t/j)jI good extensions to J.

Verification

1.1

The prescribed pairs have zero wrong adjacencies in either direction, so the displayed sets form a (3,0)-blowup and also a (3,1/3)-blowup. By [F1], each choice of one vertex from its assigned block gives a good embedding; conversely such an embedding has exactly those three choices. Thus [F3] counts 333=27.

F1F3
2.1

If the middle image is fixed, the endpoint choices are independently the three vertices of A1 and of A3, giving 33=9 by [F3]. The lower bound [F2] at t=j=3, I=1, is (3/3)2=1, so this instance exceeds that bound. For the empty partial embedding it is (3/3)3=1, also below the exact 27.

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The full host is K3,6 with parts A2 and A1A3. An induced P3 has its center in one part and two distinct ordered endpoints in the other. Centers in A2 give 365=90 embeddings; centers in the other part give 632=36. Both counts follow by successive choices, and the two cases partition all embeddings. The total is 90+36=126, including choices whose endpoints lie in the same original block.

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Source notes

Proof/convention locator: Bucic, Nguyen, Scott and Seymour, Induced subgraph density I, 4.2, explicit specialization.

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Checking the subreciprocal condition for the quadratic log bound

Example

For (x)=2 on (0,1/2), the subreciprocal inequalities are 1<2<1/x and log2(x)=1. At x=1/16 the classical density fraction with symbolic constant C>0 is 216C.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: (x)=2, 0<x<1/2, and C>0 symbolic.

[F1]

From Subreciprocal function and ell divisibility: A function :(0,1/2)(0,) is subreciprocal when it is nonincreasing and satisfies 1<(x)1/x throughout its domain.

[F2]

From Fox sudakov quantitative induced density bound: δ=2CH(log2(1/x))2

Verification

1.1

The constant function is positive and nonincreasing. For 0<x<1/2, reciprocation gives 1/x>2>1, so it meets [F1]. Also 21=2, hence log2(x)=1.

F1given
2.1

The value 1/16 lies in that interval, and log2(1/(1/16))=log216=4. Substitution into [F2] with CH=C yields exponent C42=16C and fraction 216C. Here C is a symbolic admissible constant, not a numerically certified constant for arbitrary H.

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Source notes

Proof/convention locator: Bucic, Nguyen, Scott and Seymour, Induced subgraph density I, Section 5, ell=2.

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Checking the subreciprocal condition for the loglog bound

Example

For (x)=log2(1/x) on (0,1/2), the function is subreciprocal. At x=1/16 we have (x)=4 and log2(x)=2, and the loglog density fraction with symbolic constant C>0 is 28C.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: (x)=log2(1/x), 0<x<1/2, and C>0 symbolic.

[F1]

From Qid logarithmic and constant divisibility: Every nonempty finite graph H is -divisive for each of (x)=log2(1/x) and (x)=2. Both functions are subreciprocal on (0,1/2).

[F2]

From Loglog quantitative induced density bound: δ=2CH(log2(1/x))2/log2log2(1/x).

Verification

1.1

For 0<x<1/2, reciprocation and the increasing logarithm show (x)>1 and make nonincreasing. The bound log2yy at y=1/x>2 implicit in the subreciprocity assertion [F1] gives (x)1/x. Thus all subreciprocal conditions hold, including positivity of log2(x).

F1given
2.1

At x=1/16, 1/x=16=24, so (x)=4=22 and log2(x)=2. Substituting in [F2] with CH=C gives exponent C42/2=8C and fraction 28C. The parameter C remains symbolic.

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Source notes

Proof/convention locator: Bucic, Nguyen, Scott and Seymour, Induced subgraph density I, 5.1 and 5.2.

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Comparing the two quantitative density scales

Example

Fix C1,C2>0. For 0<x<1/2 put L=log2(1/x), D1=2C1L2 and D2=2C2L2/log2L. The ratio of logarithmic losses is log2(1/D2)log2(1/D1)=C2C1log2L, and tends to zero as x decreases to zero. Consequently D2>D1 for all sufficiently small x. With C1=C2=C and x=1/16, the fractions are D1=216C and D2=28C.

Facts & Assumptions

Given: C1,C2>0, 0<x<1/2, and L,D1,D2 as defined in the example.

[F1]

From Fox sudakov quantitative induced density bound: δ=2CH(log2(1/x))2

[F2]

From Loglog quantitative induced density bound: δ=2CH(log2(1/x))2/log2log2(1/x).

[F3]

logbx=logxlogb,blogbx=x,logb(bu)=u(uR). (Change of base and inversion of the positive-base real exponential).

Verification

1.1

The two fractions have the forms in [F1] and [F2], with their constants allowed to differ. Since L>1, both losses are positive. Applying [F3] to their reciprocals yields losses C1L2 and C2L2/log2L. Dividing and cancelling L2>0 gives C2/(C1log2L).

F1F2F3
2.1

For any r>0, take xr=22C2/(C1r)+1(0,1/2). If 0<x<xr, then L>2C2/(C1r)+1 and log2L>C2/(C1r)+1, so the ratio is less than r. This proves the stated zero limit. Taking r=1 makes the second loss smaller than the first; strict increase of base-two exponentiation gives D2>D1 after negating the losses.

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At x=1/16 one has L=4 and log2L=2. For equal constants C>0, the losses are 16C and 8C, so D1=216C<28C=D2. The eventual comparison above does not assert dominance throughout the interval for unrelated constants.

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Source notes

Proof/convention locator: Bucic, Nguyen, Scott and Seymour, Induced subgraph density I, 1.7–1.8, numerical comparison.

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